tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post5952805540888251398..comments2024-01-17T10:24:25.719-05:00Comments on The Latter Days: This Idol Called "Institutional Church"Latter Days Ministryhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-34155670058806788482015-10-16T01:05:28.326-04:002015-10-16T01:05:28.326-04:00Hi Fox,
It is way too late in the day to be worr...Hi Fox, <br /><br />It is way too late in the day to be worried about religious arguments of Protestantism vs. Catholicism. Either someone personally knows the Lord and can hear from Him personally to fulfill His will or not. You really need to forget about religious strivings and seek to know the Lord for real as we are in the last days. <br /><br />We must be born again if we have any hope of seeing the Lord.Latter Days Ministryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-73988594510289768482015-10-15T21:28:11.120-04:002015-10-15T21:28:11.120-04:00Please google search "protestantiems refute d...Please google search "protestantiems refute dbyS cripture" & "salvation by faith alone refuted by scripture".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15049127836285052945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-66809549008385598182014-01-22T15:33:07.521-05:002014-01-22T15:33:07.521-05:00There definitely is a spiritual ( MYSTERY ) Babylo...There definitely is a spiritual ( MYSTERY ) Babylon but if u read Revelation 18 there is also ( MYSTERY( COMMERCIAL ) babylon who decieves the whole world with her sorceries ( unrestrained corrupt Capitalism perhaps ?? ) and seems to be the leader of world trade & commerce who God calls a whore and an abomination. <br />Heres in these videos is an idea u might consider or @ least look @ .........<br /> <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7uZU_YjpHE<br /> <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEhsyMtD5bQ<br /> <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLVz9owGxiY<br /> <br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoiHuNaEIjs<br /> <br />http://classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+18&version=ASVcaucazhinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09087648270683159060noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-27087063931629754892012-01-21T00:44:00.610-05:002012-01-21T00:44:00.610-05:00*blank stare after that comment* LOL!*blank stare after that comment* LOL!Octaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07599735054091315264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-75631808091910607242012-01-20T21:39:42.459-05:002012-01-20T21:39:42.459-05:00Awww Man! Your house was the next one on the list...Awww Man! Your house was the next one on the list for our expansion. :-)Latter Days Ministryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-4238729417800859822012-01-20T21:34:59.719-05:002012-01-20T21:34:59.719-05:00Yes I agree! I pray the Lord shows us ways we can...Yes I agree! I pray the Lord shows us ways we can help in meeting the daily needs of the Saints! Because it just seems like our house is running out of room! LOL! :-DOctaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07599735054091315264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-35478094018606570502012-01-18T06:34:35.667-05:002012-01-18T06:34:35.667-05:00Hi Octavia,
Offering practical help to people is ...Hi Octavia,<br /><br />Offering practical help to people is what the early church did, in addition to providing spiritual nourishment. And again - being practical - there were "places" they used to accomplish this.<br /><br />There were places where they assembled to meet and worship, such even physically shook at times when prayers and praise were lifted up. <br /><br />When Ananias & Sapphira sold their house and pretended to have given everything, their bodies were carried "out" of the place to be buried. Peter even told Sapphira, the men who buried your husband are now at the door. They were in a "building".<br /><br />When a dispute arose about the care of widows as the disciples multiplied, they appointed deacons to handle the matter as it was not appropriate for them to leave the dedication to God's word in order to "serve tables". So this place had "tables" where people were served food.<br /><br />No need to go on I suppose, but to go back to my old days for just a minute, "<b>We have got to stop tripping</b>." LOL How is that? You'll likely never hear me say that again. :-)<br /><br />The early church used physical places to provide practical help to people. They didn't just preach the word, save souls, and say, <i>"Okay, we don't know how you will meet your daily needs, but God speed to ya!"</i> <br /><br />The church was a <b>living, functioning Body</b> doing the works of God, and they used all resources available to them to do that. Just think even of the donations. People sold their homes and gave that money to the disciples. What were the disciples doing with all of that money? Providing for the needs of the people. Our minds have been so messed up in Babylon (much more than I think we understand) that we are even missing the basics. <br /><br />And this may be a shocker for some, but even a <i>house</i> is a <b>building</b>. :-)<br /><br />You know, for example, how we often open our home up for others to stay when needed and for ministry to others. But, we are still limited by what we can provide through this <i>one</i> family in this <i>one</i> place. I would love to see a home for the church where multiple people/families could be supported. <br /><br />Anyway, that is why I posted that quote at the top of the article. People have made buildings, services, leadership, etc. "false devils". Even is men abuse such, that doesn't make these things wrong. If Satan perverts that which is right and true, then that which is right and true doesn't become wrong because of it.<br /><br />Lord, please lift our eyes to see YOU and forget about all else. Let us do your works and get about your business, because that is what servants do.Latter Days Ministryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-71610906010369068892012-01-18T01:50:13.494-05:002012-01-18T01:50:13.494-05:00Hey Mia! I really like the article. I also don&#...Hey Mia! I really like the article. I also don't like not being able to PHYSICALLY help those trying to come out of the world (referring to your prostitute story). I think that's the part that struck me the most because while I certainly offer Jesus, I sure would like to offer more to help those transitioning from the world or even those transitioning from the IC. Good article, will watch the video later as it is late here. Will call you back later this week! :-)Octaviahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07599735054091315264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-88346280408369430942012-01-17T17:39:10.202-05:002012-01-17T17:39:10.202-05:00What do you say after you have one more thing once...What do you say after you have one more thing once you have already said you had "one more thing"? LOL<br /><br />Anyway, for all, the solution is <b>not</b> for the church to try and be <i>unlike</i> the IC. <br /><br />The problem with the IC is not that they had "buildings", or leadership, or services, etc. The problem with what is called the IC is that such was <b>never</b> the church, but Babylon.<br /><br />If the IC has buildings, are we going to shun all buildings? If the IC has elders, are we going to shun elders? If the IC has music, will we shun from all music?<br /><br />The standard for the church is not what man does or does not do. The standard is the word of God. Unless this is our guide in all things, we will be led into deception.<br /><br />Okay, I really think that is all for now. :-)Latter Days Ministryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-21407164447937975662012-01-17T16:43:17.319-05:002012-01-17T16:43:17.319-05:00Also, one more thing.
The issue is not that the...Also, one more thing. <br /><br />The issue is not that there are already too many church buildings. The issue is that there are many 'buildings' and almost none of them are the church.<br /><br />There is many a "mega-church" in this city, but these are merely citadels to man's ego. They are not doing the works of the ministry, but establishing man-centered empires built on perversion.<br /><br />The building is not the answer and is certainly not going to inspire anyone to do the works of God. A building is merely a tool through which the Gospel can be propagated and ministers supported as people are brought through, trained, and sent forth to heal others.Latter Days Ministryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-89804331688737335912012-01-17T16:04:53.804-05:002012-01-17T16:04:53.804-05:00Hi SetFreeFromTheIC,
I know that you understand w...Hi SetFreeFromTheIC,<br /><br />I know that you understand where I am coming from as we have both been there and done that. :-)<br /><br />I am not too much into semantics. The bottom line for me is that God's word does indicate that there was the regular gathering of saints locally where there were elders, teaching, fellowship, breaking of bread, collection of donations, etc. Scripture also sets forth a government and order for these gatherings with the goal of perfecting the saints themselves to go out and minister. We can call that "church" or any word we choose, but there <b>is</b> a place for such in the life of a believer, particularly a new one.<br /><br />Pastor Price is a pretty practical guy. I am not saying that this is you, but we cannot be so set against what we were delivered from that we cripple ourselves in actually doing the works of God. <br /><br />Once people come to the Lord, how do we help them practically? It has to be more than spiritual because people need to survive down here while they are growing in the Lord. There should be a place they can come anytime for help, for prayer, for daycare, for job assistance, for counseling, for food, for financial help...While we certainly have the primary desire to minister to the souls of men, we also need to be a real help in a time of need for the daily struggles people are dealing with. <br /><br />There is a prostitute I know who was interested in giving her life to the Lord. However, turning tricks was all she knew. While she wanted to give up that life, she also had children to care for. What was I to do? Just tell her to trust and wait upon the Lord because He will provide? And I am not saying that He won't provide, but I am saying that we need to be able to offer practical assistance to folks so that they don't wind up going back to a life of sin (which this young lady did). It would have been wonderful if I could send her to a shelter where housing could be provided, care for his children give, training for her to obtain another profession, etc.<br /><br />Just like there are reasons why a family needs a physical home, there are similar reasons why the church needs a physical home. While I am sure that we could survive without it, I am very thankful to have a place to call home as it makes caring and providing for my children that much easier. When they grow up, they may very well venture out and get homes of their own. But while I am charged with raising them, our home is a God-send in doing the very things God is charging me to do for their care.<br /><br />While doctors and nurses could certainly go on the road and offer assistance to the sick and wounded, is there not a benefit in having a "place" to tend to such persons? Anyway, I am sure you see what I mean. <br /><br />God has always arranged for such for His people and that is continued in the New Testament. It is not for man's glory, but to the glory of God so that His people are made whole in every way.<br /><br />As you say sister, it is all in the Lord's hands. I know that this is a vision God has given Pastor Price many years ago. As such, He alone can bring it to pass. Thank you so much for your thoughts and prayers about it. I would hope that there would be such places all around - whether part of Omega or not - which could be a beacon of light and hope to the lost. <br /><br />Many ills we see all around us is because the church is not doing what it is called to do and be to the lost. May God guide us all and lead us to the purpose He has set before us, for the sake of the harvest and His great name's sake.<br /><br />God Bless You sister!!Latter Days Ministryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-29970028085216519872012-01-17T15:24:33.508-05:002012-01-17T15:24:33.508-05:00Hey sis!
I really like this article, (and all of ...Hey sis!<br /><br />I really like this article, (and all of your articles) because it challenges me to think about topics and my own beliefs in a biblical way.<br /><br />While there are points of disagreement I have concerning whether church is a "place" vs. a people gathered in a specific place locally and universally (there is a difference) your points are well heeded. <br /><br />You articulated something I have known for a while... therefore I have simply stopped calling many places "church" because they simply do not fit the characteristics of church of God. <br /><br />I also figured out very quickly, coming out of an institutional church does not make one free, as a matter of fact one can be bound to the same mentality of which enslaved them to their false church to begin with. This is why I have made videos and blogs with this sentiment... point people to Christ, and from Christ all good those things will flow.<br /><br />Godly leadership and accountability is needed in the body, however I believe most leaders model their leadership after the world, and have little to no idea how to be a servant leader as Christ was before them. Reformation and renewing of the mind needs to come from the "top" so to speak. Jesus' leadership is radical and profound, and validated by his service to ALL, not the want to be served. <br /><br />Excellent points on how the IC can become an idol whether you are enslaved to it or not. This is why the mentality of being part of this system (which we will both agree is indeed part of the Babylonian harlot structure) is essential. It all depends on how you define the IC, because I have said and still believe that not every organized church fits the IC model, nor is local assembly wrong... it is NEEDED! The disagreement is based on HOW we meet vs. not meeting at all.<br /><br />I also watched the video presentation made by Pastor Price, and while I agree with us going back to the basics concerning what we do as the kingdom of God, building these big edifices IMHO is NOT the answer. I know this is well intentioned, but it may be creating more of the same issues that much of the IC currently has thinking building more buildings will make people do the work it takes. <br /><br />The laborers are few sis, and while again well intentioned, I just wonder.<br /><br />Psalm 20:4<br />May he give you the desire of your heart and make all your plans succeed.<br /><br />Proverbs 16:9<br />In his heart a man plans his course, but the LORD determines his steps.<br /><br />Proverbs 19:21<br />Many are the plans in a man’s heart, but it is the LORD’s purpose that prevails.<br /><br />Grace and peace to you and your ministry sis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-49120641792294681992012-01-17T14:17:30.300-05:002012-01-17T14:17:30.300-05:00Hi Susan,
I really LOVE the video! My only thoug...Hi Susan,<br /><br />I really LOVE the video! My only thoughts would be that, in some ways, it typifies the issues discussed here.<br /><br />For example, in order for the church to look like people coming "out" to disciple, people must first come "in" to church to be taught.<br /><br />While the church (people) should <b>certainly</b> about doing the works of the ministry, there is also according to Scripture a church (gathering place) where the saints are perfected in order to do the works of the ministry.<br /><br />The problem is not buildings, services, meetings, etc. The problem is when people settle there and never <i>grow up</i> to become disciples themselves.<br /><br />The place is not irrelevant, but should be a vehicle for training and sending members of the church out to do the Father's work.<br /><br />God Bless!Latter Days Ministryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15405696673350225699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-58707690167633191752012-01-17T13:28:08.799-05:002012-01-17T13:28:08.799-05:00This is discipling ... this is church.
A picture...This is discipling ... this is church. <br />A picture is worth 1000 words!<br /><br /> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aI6soIIWKI<br /><br />A disciple of Christ ~ SusanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-53621132856360245552012-01-17T11:58:37.854-05:002012-01-17T11:58:37.854-05:00This is a much needed article. It has LAYERS of to...This is a much needed article. It has LAYERS of topics for correction and instruction within that will surely help us all grow up and attain unity, if we will just yield and obey. Praise God for speaking through His servants as He is preparing us in grace and mercy for these end times. <br /><br />On a lighter note, how yall been? LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-793573695603056525.post-53442203501938844592012-01-16T11:38:49.628-05:002012-01-16T11:38:49.628-05:00This is awesome teaching and I learned something t...This is awesome teaching and I learned something today! Thank you, I have emailed this blog to friends. God bless!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com