As a young believer, I even attended an SDA bible study, although I had no idea that is was tied to SDA. This was due in part to the fact that it was not promoted as such. I have found that SDA materials and seminars often obscure the fact that they are disseminated by the SDA. While I cannot speak as to why this is done, I have seen it being a source of confusion for others and thought it best to address it. As with any deception, that which works best is that which incorporates some truth in with the lies.
The purpose of this article is not to speak about the relationship of the law to a believer. We have done that many times before. This article aims to provide information on where the SDA organization comes from and whether their teachings line up with the word of God.
The following video series "Seventh Day Adventism: The Spirit Behind the Church" discusses the life of Ellen G. White and the root & evolution of her spurious teachings and false prophecies. Such teachings include that Christ's atonement for sin was incomplete, That Jesus Christ is Michael the Archangel, and that there is no hell. The Jehovah's Witness is but one splinter group stemming from these false SDA teachings, including its own "inspired" versions of Scriptures.
The next video series "The Seventh Day Abomination (The SDA Mystery Babylon Connection)" shows how Ellen G. White's teachings were founded on the work of Freemason William Miller. It also connects these Millerite teachings back to their roots in freemasonry and Egyptian occult worship.
Egyptian pyramids were created to mirror the belt of Orion in astrology, which they believed to be the home of God. Ellen White makes various references in her writings to God being the "All-seeing eye" and God's home being in Orion. This is a continued theme in SDA teachings even today.
SDA also is at the forefront of the ecumenical movement to bring the world religions together under an Age of Aquarius "Rule of Law" as part of the new world order. The video shows how disunity between the SDA and the Roman Catholic Church is only a cunningly devised farce which will become more revealed as the two work closely together to bring about the ecumenical objectives.
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I was almost deceived by the SDA via this very hardcore guy on youtube that goes by the username forerunner777. He's very knowledgeable about the bible and can probably quote the bible forwards and backwards. This excited me as I was just getting into the word and was very hungry for anything that had the name Jesus attached to it. I then began to look up this guy and found out he promotes Ellen G. White books and he's talking about worshipping on the sabbath, the whole "Sunday Law", being under the law and everything else the SDA cult teaches. I thank the Lord that He opened my eyes to this deception. This guy is very dangerous because he starts out with biblical truth then he sneaks in this false doctrine usually near the end of his videos. I pray that others will wake up and not be deceived by him or the SDA cult in general.
Keep bringing the truth sis and continue to keep me in your prayers. God Bless!
A lot to take in, still learning and studying...But I've been searching and longing for this kind of information for a long time. I've actually thought about asking you on this very subject earlier. Its a very serious theme to pick up.
Thanks.
Hi Juanita,
Yes, I am familiar with Christopher Hudson (Forerunner777). I too used to listen to him before God started opening my eyes to the deceptions that he weaves into his videos. He certainly is very bright and very familiar with the Scriptures. However, much of what he teaches in regards to the law and the Sabbath is false. Even Satan knows the word, and while I am not calling him Satan, I am pointing out that Scriptural acumen is not how we determine truth. We must test the spirits and compare teachings to the word of God like the Bereans.
And he is not alone. Others have contacted me about loved ones and friends who are starting to join the SDA organization. We must remember that deception in the last days will be so great as to even deceive the elect, if it is possible. May Jesus guard our hearts and minds as we make Him the center of our lives...and I know that He will.
I pray that you are well!
Hi Dan,
It is alot to take in. Yet, one thing that I found very interesting is how - at their roots - these institutions all have their roots obviously tied back to Babylon. It is no wonder that God tells His people to come our of this defiled system.
God Bless.
Certain RC church leaders have admitted that the institution of Sunday is a "mark" of their authority. The system is the woman of Revelation 17 that according to the prophecy sits on seven hills. It will become the mark when it is enforced by law. How can anyone who keeps this custom claim that their denominational teachings have not been infiltrated by Babylon?
Hi Anonymous,
The RCC institution speaks with the mouth of a dragon. I do not give weight to much of any of what they say. Mind you, I am not talking about the individual believers of the RCC (who are largely deceived), I am speaking of the organization itself. It is evil.
It surprises me not that they would make such a claim. For one, they are always trying to assert their "authority". This is the "mark" of the fact that they are part of Babylon. The real church of God needs not assert its own authority for it recognizes that all authority comes from God and is His alone.
Additionally, they (again, the institution) continue to pervert the Scriptures and the truths of God. For them to use a red herring to create division out of something that is a non-issue to God is nothing new.
In addition to saying that this whore sits on 7 hills, it also says that where the whore sits "...are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." (verse 15) Yes, the RCC is part of Babylon, but they are not all of it. There are also 7 continents, which I think is the broader meaning of this text. Babylon is a global system seen in every part of the world.
I would say that anyone who believes that this is the mark has already been deceived by and engrafted into Babylon.
God doesn't care at all which day we set aside to worship Him and rest from our works because this is how we are supposed to live every day (Colossians 2:16-17). If we have entered into His rest, then we have entered and are living in His Sabbath (Hebrews 4:1-11). If we still think the Sabbath is just one particular day, then we have not entered into His rest.
"For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from his own works, as God did from his." Hebrews 4:10
The New Testament Sabbath is walking in the discipleship of Christ everyday through a crucified life of obedience to Him so that it is no longer we who work, but Christ alone. Only then have we ceased from "our" works; only then we are truly submitted to the Lord of the Sabbath.
The true characteristic of Babylon is that it does not promote freedom in Christ, but chains man to some form of religious performance. Seek freedom my friend, for Jesus promises that the truth will make you free.
From what I hear from what you guess are saying about Christopher Hudson (Forerunner777)Seems to me he is teaching the truth based on the bible! And seems like you guys aren't rightly dividing the word of truth not line upon line I support the writings of Ellen G white she has been proven to be a prophet way before you and i have came on the scene other more wiser and knowledgeable tried to prove here wrong back in her time and now here we are in 2011 trying to do the same thing...instead of testing the spirit,testing the prophet form the scriptures to see if she if of God you guys don't you just have beef with probably the SDA church in general or just a issue with your lack of surrendering to Christ and giving him a open heart and mind for change so the Holy Spirit and teach and lead you unto truth!...now if you guys are students of the bible and the athourity on who is of God and not..then please share with us what does this verse means in the bible?Revelation 19:10 And I fell at his feet to worship him. And he said unto me, See thou do it not: I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.Joel 2:28-30 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come. Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.So just for the record she came on the scene right after the prophecy of the tribulation (dark ages )the Dark day and the protestant reformation. based on bible prophecy...and there's much more scriptures on this matter.
she is the most proliferate writer in American history maybe in the world! with a 3rd grade education Glory to God He is amazing how he can use such sinners as us for His cause. And she has been tested...she doesn't speak against the word of God..she doesn't claim to be God or Christ. She doesn't claim to be the Holy spirit...but just a child of God and his servant just like you and me...however God has anointed her with the Gift of Prophecy for the Church...By the way threw out all the ages of the church God has always had a prophet to lead and to God his people..what makes this age any different especially since we are living in the end times?? who God leave us without a prophet to face Satan head on?? I think not.So if she isnt the Prophet of the Lord then who? who do you think God has raised up for His people...Jean Dixon, the Pope? really who? You guys aren't being wise in your thinking.She been called by God,tested and proven.Thousands who aren't even Christians have acknowledge her as being a powerful Christians in her words and actions in ministry in saving souls for Christ.Yet those who profess to be Christians condemn her. Didn't they do Christ like that??? I say search your heart and souls before we so easily condemn someone who is doing the Lords work. the bible saids Corinthians 14:37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. In her writings she never taught for God people not to keep Gods commandments nor ignore His holy word.However other do many popular ministers ands so called prophets of today...and are you guys writings blogs about them? calling them out by name?? 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man’s wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 1 Corinthians 2:13-14 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. So understanding that text we know we can't judge or view things from a carnal state of mind or position..we have to use God's word to be the test as well as testing the fruits of the on professing to be a instrument of GodMatthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Her life was always in humble service of the Lord.And lets not forget she was a adventist keeping Sunday 1st like millions of Christians were before the truth of the seventh day sabbath came to her..and hence forth she and family keep it and taught it to others because it was bible truth for her time and still is today! how many ministers and prophets are teaching and telling other to obey the Lord like the apostles and prophets had just on that point alone?? hardly any yet we wanna stone her like stephen. may God help us to come to a closer walk with our Lord and a deeper understanding of His word and not just surface read but yet be able to stand on our own with the word of God giving thus sayeth the Lord and not just follow blogers who aren't rightly "dividing the word of truth"2 Timothy 2:14 Romans 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God. So Sister Juanita and Brother Dan I hope you please reconsider your positions on the matter of Ellen White as well as the so called "occult" teachings of the adventist church. Christ saids in Mathew 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. Proverbs 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death. Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. Jesus Christ is coming soon Lets be ready to meet him together! Pray for me as I pray for you. I give this posting in the Love of Christ.God Bless
Hello Phillipfreeland,
I am sure you will agree that what matters most is not the thoughts or opinions of man, but what God says in a matter. Correct?
“And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him. But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die. And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken? If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.” Deuteronomy 18:19-22
“But the prophet who prophesies peace will be recognized as one truly sent by the Lord only if his prediction comes true.” Jeremiah 28:9
“When all this comes true - and it surely will - then they will know that a prophet has been among them.” Ezekiel 33:33
“The Lord was with Samuel as he grew up, and he let none of his words fall to the ground. And all Israel from Dan to Beersheba recognized that Samuel was attested as a prophet of the Lord.” 1 Samuel 3:19
His words are enough for me. I don't care how charismatic, how well-liked, how respected... If someone's words do not line up with Scripture, then I am going with Scripture.
Amen! sounds like your on the right tract with that one my friend I do agree with you on every point from the Word of God!...However I'm still confused as to why you wouldn't consider Ellen white as being a prophet of the Lord? period.She meets all of the biblical criteria.You seems to have a serious prejudice against her or 7th day Adventist in general. She has been tested and proven by the word and men way before you and I ever came on the scene accepting Christ as our Lord and Savior has took her threw the mill and at the end came out confessing she was of the Lord and her visions weren't staged or falsely rigged by the church its was purely genuine according to the word of God. Again...yeah shall know them by their fruits rights? Mark 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. so please give examples why you think she isn't Gods prophet..not something you heard of or assumed.But based on her life and in her writings she has said something contrary to the word of God or anything she hasn't repented from if she had erred from scripture???? she never claimed to be Christ nor sinless nor one who makes a mistake like me ...you have this idea that the prophets in the bible didn't have there personal issues and have fallen short at times as well...however it God used them inspite of there short comings because in there heart God new where they wanted to be in terms of there love and commitment to him. examples...( moses smote the rock twice, David was a murder, and a thief, Peter was a liar etc) we can go on with others but I hope you get my point..yet we still consider these men as men of God (prophets,preachers,teachers) in the church. We are sinners and err in life the disciples,apostles and prophets of old had there issues yet they confessed, repented and made the changes in Christ unto righteousness. And if not her my friend then you tell me Who is the prophet God has raised up for His church in the end times? who ??? when will he or she come on the scene yet? Isaiah 1:18 Lets us reason together here.Your really playing with fire my brother if your wrong you are actually criticizing God himself.You haven't giving any facts to show she isn't a prophet of the Lord no facts period. But some great scriptures we have always used for those to be tested by...and yet from my studies like many others see she has passed that test. Your need to go back and to some real research on the lives she has changed showing them to Christ as a servant of God and the great things threw her inspired counsel had made early America the great country she is today in health ,and education and in business. so you tell me if not her who wrote over 500 books all pointing people to serve God and to be ready for his soon coming. she never claimed to be perfect just a messenger.We have placed that on her to be "perfect" yet peter cut off a man's ear against the teachings of Christ...yet we use peters writings as thus saith the Lord..sounds hypocritical to me. would you agree? I say this we are on the edge of a major crisis in this world leading to the coming of Christ ...The Lord we be very irresponsible to bring us this far to leave us hanging without a end time prophet Proverbs 29:18 Where there is no vision, the people perish. So again I asked you and all you bloggers if not her then who? It so easy to tear someone down...but do you have someone in mind from the word God has He showed you who that might be? please share...please be a builder of the kingdom not a demolisher.
Hello Phillipfreeland,
If you need examples of where her prophecies have failed or where she has preached doctrines diametrically opposed to Scripture, then I suggest you watch the videos in this article.
"...or anything she hasn't repented from if she had erred from scripture???"
If she did repent for the falsehoods she taught, then such is wonderful for her eternal destiny. However, her doctrines & prophecies remain false and should not be followed.
"she never claimed to be perfect just a messenger."
The Bible doesn't say we have to be perfect, in terms of being without error. But it does tell us how to identify a false prophet, and Ellen White was one according to the Word of God.
Yet, I couldn't really care less about the person of Ellen White. I am more concerned with people living today and being deceived by those who have promoted the same false doctrines she espoused. It is for the benefit of those who desire to serve God in Spirit and in Truth that this post is made.
As I stated, I will abide by the word of God.
Thank you.
My pastor once said that if people speak poorly of him, disparage him, or defame his reputation...we should not care one iota. And I agree completely. He was right!
So many times, you see people championing the cause of men (or women), when the only cause we should champion is the cause of Christ.
How foolish it would have been for the Apostles to run around defending each others' reputations. Rather, they considered it a "small thing" to be judged by men - and even to be misjudged by them - as long as Christ was preached in truth. They "rejoiced" that they were counted worthy to suffer shame for His name sake's.
They were not concerned with their reputations, nor did they instruct their followers to be. Their only concern was that the glory of Jesus' name not suffer.
When man feels compelled to defend other men, that is idolatry. The fact that one feels led to do this is the evidence that you know this person's work is not based in truth.
The statement made above about the RCC goes for anything else as well. If one has to promote one's own authority or have it defended by men, then that is Babylon.
In fact, you will not find much difference at all between these statements defending Ellen White and the statements from a catholic woman under the post about Mary defending the RCC. What is the commonality? Not ONE concern about Jesus Christ and His truths, but only for the reputation of the idols.
Where are your affections? The fact that you can spend so much effort trying to build up this woman shows that your affections are not on Christ.
Our hope and our salvation should never be based in the reputation of men/women...if we claim faith in Jesus Christ.
Forget my pastor. Forget Ellen White. Forget ME! Consider us all the scum of the earth. Who cares about the vessel? It is of no consequence. Preach Christ! But this cannot be done as long as an idol is present in the heart.
Look, I am not trying to be harsh here, but you must really step out of the delusion you are in. Are you the proclaimer of men or of Christ?
May our life's work and testimony stand or fall based on whether it was built upon the Rock or not.
If you think that criticizing other religions is good, and this is the way you are going to bring lives to God, I encourage you to read that Bible you have one more time. Make sure you ask God for wisdom to understand the Bible as it is and not explaining small verses and backing them up with other small portions of the Bible. The Bible talks about misunderstanding His word, too in case you missed that part. This videos are not even productive. Basic examples that people as "Christian" that I supposed obey God's word not follow is Exodus 20 and Leviticus 11. Both are scientifically and BIBLICALLY proven by history that they are true. Why if in the Bible says to keep the Sabbath why we just chose another day. Is telling you directly that you must keep the Sabbath. You are not saved by not keeping the sabbath; you are saved if you OBEY. So if you just as easy don't follow one of the commandments you are disobeying. Am I right? Obey his law and you will gain the gift of ETERNAL LIFE.
Hi Jdum89,
No, you are not right.
Why didn't you refer to Exodus 25, 29, or 30? Why not Leviticus Chapters 1, 2, or 3?
Were not these commands given to be obeyed as well?
If we are to serve the Lord, then we must receive His whole word and seek understanding about what it means to be in obedience to it. Otherwise, we are just engaged in religious performance.
"Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Colossians 2:16-17
Do you endeavor to understand and obey God's whole word?
Anytime we shed light on darkness, it is going to make the way to Christ revealed. So, I am thankful for that.
"But rise, and stand upon thy feet: for I have appeared unto thee for this purpose, to make thee a minister and a witness both of these things which thou hast seen, and of those things in the which I will appear unto thee; Delivering thee from the people, and from the Gentiles, unto whom now I send thee, To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me." Acts 26:16-18
I don't care about the SDA organization. However, I do care about people deceived by it and pray that God will bring deliverance to those who truly sincerely seek Him. I know that He will.
@JDUM89...I was raised SDA and even attended Oakwood College for my freshmen year. I was very sold on every aspect of Adventism and use to defend it with the same zeal as you and Phillip. During my time at Oakwood I began to truly study the word for my self and not for the purpose of preparing for the next bible bowl competition or specail AY program. The Spirit began to reveal many discprepencies between the doctrine of Adventism and the Word.
I left the organization two years after that. I am free from the bondage of doctrine and walk in the truth and light of God's Word. My desire is for Him and not the law or writings of man. Ellen White's prophecies have been proven as false even by her own account. She never said they were false but that she "miscalculated". Come on...really.
In regards to the comment about not reading the entire bible and picking bits and pieces to focus on, Adventist are extremely guilty for that. What about the gifts of the Spirit and the five fold ministry. Ellen White is deamed to be the only prophet in the Adventist church. You will not see the laying on of hands or casting out of demons being done in any Adventist church around the world. Jewelry, makeup, vegetarianism, Sabbath worship, marrying a "sabbath keeper", are just a few dogmatic doctrines that represent Adventism and speak to the bondage that Jesus and the apostle spoke of us being freed from.
I usually don't get into petty doctrine arguments, but I hate to see people so deceived and ready to be persecuted for the lies and deceit of Satan. Seek God's truth. Pray daily for His will and light to be known. I promise He will answer and you will find that SDA, RC, COGIC, CRC, etc. is not the way. Jesus is the only way and His Word (not the supplemental writings of man) is the only thing that will stand.
One last thing...this ministry does more than pick on denominations or expose people. If you take the time to look around the site you will find many enriching studies about various topics. I have been blessed by this ministry for over a year now. I just needed to add my two cents. Not to defend Mia, cause truth always defends itself.
My Dear Breather en,
How are you sure that Ellen G. White is a false prophet? before you judge her I want you to read all her books especially the Great Controversy then after all judge her if she is really a false prophet. Some of her books talks about prophecy especially the Great Controversy, this book was written for a 100 yrs. ago then some of his words that was written in that book was telling about the future. She told also about U.S that someday it will rise and will be the most powerful city then what happened now? As we see U.S nowadays are powerful among the nations so I tell you my brothers and sisters in Christ, do not judge her for you don't know how big she contribute especially in our Religion.
I know that this words is not enough for you to satisfy your questions and comments but I suggest you all that read her books first especially the Great Controversy before saying that she is a false prophets.
May God Bless you all as you search for the truth.
Hello Vincent,
The Scriptures indicate that if a man (or woman) says "Thus saith the Lord" and the words do not come true, such is a false prophet. Ellen White's own failed prophecies indicate that she falls into the category. Further, much of the doctrine she taught was against Scripture.
We certainly should all seek for truth, but God's word is the standard for that truth, not any man's (or woman's) words.
May we all turn to God alone as the definer of what is true and not the wisdom of man.
i was born into and grew up in the
sda church - as soon as i was old
enough to think critically i was
bothered by the discrepancies i
noticed between what the bible says
and what the sda church teaches.
they teach the law but only follow
some of it - for instance - in the
torah (1 five books of moses) the
law states that you cannot start
a fire on the sabbath and if you do
you must die. well, today that would mean that you could not drive
your car on the sabbath as a fire is required to run the engine, you
could not cook on your gas stove
because that requires you to start
a fire, you could not run your
furnace in the winter because the
furnace requires a fire to run - yet we did all of these things when
i was a kid - don't get me started
on how the sda church says one
thing and does another because i
could go on forever. i am now 65
years old and it has taken all this
time for Jesus to cleanse me from
the slavery i was born into - never
will i willingly go back to slavery
to the law! i am free in Jesus! and
what a joy it is to serve Him in
Spirit and in Truth.
nancy
Hi Nancy,
I couldn't agree more. It is a joy to serve Him in Spirit and in Truth.
When it comes to "keeping the Sabbath" in terms of the letter of the law, it includes:
No work of any kind (Ex. 20:8-10, 23:12, 31:14-15, 35:2; Lev. 23:3; Deut. 5:12-14; Numbers 15:32-36; Jer. 17:21-22). The Jews understood "work" to cover a number of tasks including carrying, burning, writing, washing, tying, untying, marking, running, speaking about business, etc.
No preparing of food or cooking of any kind nor allowing others to do so for you (Exod. 16:20-30, 35:3).
No traveling of any kind (Ex. 16:29).
No buying or selling of any kind (Amos 8:5; Neh. 10:31; 13:15,19).
No carrying of anything out of your place of residence (Jer. 17: 21).
No lighting of any fires, including striking a match, changing a thermostat, starting a car, using electricity, etc. (Exodus 35:3)
If people honestly looked at the requirements for Sabbath keeping, they would soon acknowledge that they are continually breaking the Sabbath.
The saddest part is that they are failing to understand - and thereby walk in - the true Sabbath rest which can only come from being in Jesus Christ.
I thank God for your deliverance and it only goes to show that He is faithful. He is no respecter of persons. What He has done for you He will do for all who want to know and walk in the truth.
God Bless!
Hi Latter Days Ministry, to answer your comment: "Why didn't you refer to Exodus 25, 29, or 30? Why not Leviticus Chapters 1, 2, or 3?"
-Hebrew laws were divided into three parts. the moral law (the ten commandments), and the ceremonial an civil laws. The ten commandments, written in stone, were found inside the ark of the covenant (1kings8:9), and all the other laws were written in a book that was put beside the ark (Deut31:24-26).
All through out the new testament we find that it says that we no longer live by the law, but by faith in Jesus Christ! Amen! I believe that one hundred percent. however, we must clarify something. if the hebrew law was divided into three, which part is no longer valid? all three? two? one?
many times you have posted a very commonly used verse: "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ." Colossians 2:16-17
now let us examine this text. to do this, we must study it in it's context. so let's read from verse 14: "Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances, that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his Cross". now is is really interesting the words Paul chose to refer to the laws that are no longer valid. the handwriting, which is exactly like Deut31:24, followed by contrary to us which is also exactly like Deut31:26; all which refer to the ceremonial and civil laws (which were outside the ark, and not inside with the ten commandments). But then, why does the verse say of the sabbath days? The Hebrews had two different sabbaths (which means rest). One was the ceremonial sabbath, and another was the weekly sabbath. If you look at Leviticus 23 and Numbers 28,29 you will see which were the ceremonial ones. they were days chosen (ej: the 14th of the 1st month) that no matter what day of the week it was, monday, tuesday, friday, etc, it had to be kept rest like they did on weekly sabbaths. the weekly sabbath, however, was not istituted on the event of mt. sinai, rather in the week of creation Gen2:2-3. this is why it is the only commandment that starts with "remember" (exo20:8). Therefore, unlike the ceremonial sabbaths, this one was given to all mankind. not just to the hebrews like many believe.
But how do we know which sabbath is colossians2 refering to? first, we start with the fact that this sabbath is Not in the book written in Deut31, which found earlier was abolished, however it was written in the ten commandments put inside the ark. second, what does Jesus have to say about the ten commandments? Mathew5:17-18 says he didnot come to abolish it. that until heaven and earth pass, not a jot or a tittle shall pas of it. What day did Jesus keep? luk4:16; mark1:21 what day did paul used to keep AFTER jesus' died? Act17:2 what are the two main characteristics of the saints in Revelations? Rev14:12 those who keep the commandments (the ten commandments, not nine). What does Isaiah say we'll do in heaven also? Isaiah 66:22-23
and there is more evidence of the weekly sabbath. May God bless you all and enlighten all of us in the study of His word so we may find the truth in it and not be deceived with false doctrines.
I leave you guys with this last promise: Isaiah58:13-14
Hi Jaref,
You say, "if the hebrew law was divided into three, which part is no longer valid? all three? two? one?"
The answer is that all of the law is fulfilled in Christ.
God is not the author of confusion, and when He says to let no man judge you regarding Sabbath days, He does not qualify that at all to say, "Oh! That is except the 7th day Sabbath". That is a distinction you are making in order to hold on to your doctrine.
Further, the New Testament is quite clear that the Ten Commandments (called the ministration of death) is not the governing authority over Christians: Ministration of Death
Also, every command God gives us in the NT is a "commandment": All of God's Commandments
The Ten Commandments are handwritten; they are written by the very finger of God.
Yes, it is crucial - especially at times such as this - that we not give heed to false doctrines. But what you are espousing friend, is false. There are a number of articles on this site which discuss the law if helpful. But more importantly, just seek God to show you the truth in this matter. He is faithful to do so.
God Bless
Hi Daniel,
The purpose of this article is not to degrade nor defend Christopher Hudson. If you are interested in knowing why his view of the Ten Commandments is wrong, enough info has been provided here, as well as in other articles on this blog.
The issue is so much bigger than Forerunner777. I pray that God opens his eyes to the delusions he is promoting. Although his does teach truth on some other subjects, a little leaven leavens the whole lump.
The bottom line is that these SDA doctrines are in error, and it doesn't become truth just because certain people promote it.
Thanks for commenting.
Is there a particular reason why my comments were removed by the blog administrator? Were they removed for promoting and supporting God's 10 Commandments?
Hi Daniel,
They were removed for the reasons stated above.
While I invite comments on the blog, I also have a responsibility for what is presented on it. I will not post comments linking to false doctrines with people proclaiming that these errors are true.
Thanks
I have been watching the videos of Forerunner & just discovered that he is 7th Day. As a new Christian, what bothers me is not so much that he is 7th Day, but that he doesn't come out and say that. He is the second 7th Day follower that I've noticed this about - Walter Veith was the first. Obscuring that fact is, in my opinion, the same as what they warn us about in their teachings on music and other media. They will explain how subtle the deception there is, but at the same time, they aren't being forthcoming about their doctrines. It feels like a sneaky tactic.
I agree that when something does not line up with Scripture, it's just wrong.
I would ask 7th Day Adventists who are commenting here (and I am honestly inquiring, not being snarky or argumentative) that, if they feel so sure about their beliefs, why not be more open about identifying themselves. You shouldn't "trick" someone into believing. When I tell people about salvation, I don't try to hide Who I am representing or what my beliefs are. And if the 7th Day folks feel they aren't wrong in their doctrine, then be open about it and let people decide for themselves whether to follow or not. Otherwise, you are going to have people find out after the fact and feel that they were lied to. I can tell you that I never did listen to anything Walter Veith had to say because I felt that his tactics were sneaky. I am a bit more discerning now as a believer so I do listen to the Forerunner videos, but I strain to weed out the "bad" doctrine.
Thank you for the post. This situation reminds me of the hazards pointed out in "Pilgrim's Progress."
God bless us all.
Dear brothers and sisters,
I believe Ellen G. White's writings does not contradict with the Bible. One thing that I might need to clarify you, SDA doesnt worship Ellen G. White, we do not call her Holy mother, we called her as a sister. She was our fellow believer in Christ, and many people gathered and form this same spirit, thats how the adventist is being formed. We believed in her writings just like people in those days believing in Paul, peter etc who was the disciples of Jesus. We acknowledge that some people are chosen by God to bring out the message. Exposing the truth is not attacking the RCC, it's revealing the truth, remember that in Daniel 12:4
But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
There are hundred of denominations around the world who claimed to know Jesus but remember this verse : Jesus said, "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father" (Matt. 7:21),
Im defending sist White because she's a fellow believer who believe in Jesus Christ as our personal saviour. I challenge you to read her book "Steps to Christ" and found anything that contradict in the book with the bible. She was an ordinary person just like you and me, the difference was, she accepted the gift and use it to glorify God, and because of that God uses her to preach His truth to the world who lost the truth. it's not her, it's God :)..
A basketball in my hands is worth about $19.
A basketball in Michael Jordan's hands is worth about $33 million.
It all depends whose hands it's in.
A stick in my hands will hit a softball.
A stick in Moses' hands will part a mighty sea.
It all depends whose hands it's in.
A sling shot in my hands is just a toy.
A sling shot in David's hand is a mighty weapon.
It all depends whose hands it's in.
Nails in my hands might produce a birdhouse.
Nails in Jesus Christ's hands will produce salvation for the entire world.
It all depends whose hands they're in.
Ellen G white, an ordinary girl, but with mighty hand leading her, she reached out millions people around the world. because it depends who is leading her.
Do we worship Moses? no. Do we worship David? no. Do we worship Ellen White? no. Jesus said " I am the way, the truth and the life".
Illustration: we all may have the same map(Bible) to reach to our destination(heaven).. if you grab the wrong map or interpret is wrongly, you would never reach heaven. There are many denominations or person in the world who claim to know the truth, regardless whether you are an SDA or from other denominations, Seek GOd's truth and He will direct your path. May God is always the center of our lives.
This would be endless arguments because everybody would stand on their own beliefs and interpretation. As for me, I believe in her writings and I believe that God has sent her. It's more than 100 years ago when she talked about the USA in prophecy, not because she made it up, it was in the bible, only that no one could understand it, and God revealed that truth to her. Look what is happening now, just a few examples of articles:
1. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2012-01-05/home/30591462_1_fox-news-sopa-indefinite-detention
2. Sunday law
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/232582#.T0LRNPXBHl7
Movement on sunday alliance
http://www.europeansundayalliance.eu/site/newsevents/breakingnews/article/107.html
call us fake or whatever, but i urge you to seek the truth before it's too late. Do not harden your heart, let God leading you, ask for humble repentance. Remember, when the ark's door was closed and the rain came down, only people started to believe in Noah, But IT WAS TOO LATE.
Hi Anonymous,
The problem with your comments is that it doesn't matter what you believe (or I believe for that matter). It only matters whether what we say lines up with God's word or not.
If you want to see how Ellen White's prophecies were false, then I suggest you watch the videos in the article above.
“If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.” Deuteronomy 18:22
Satan is also able to speak some truth, but the difference is he always perverts it with lies. So having "some truth" is not a sign that one is speaking for the Lord.
Yes, I would agree that repentance is the call of the hour, so that we all may turn from every false way and truly serve the Living God with our whole hearts...in Spirit and in Truth.
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